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Steorn's free energy seems curiously expensive

Rupert Goodwins ZDNet.co.uk

Published: 22 Aug 2006 10:35 BST

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...you go and look and, if you find what you're looking for, your theory is all the stronger. Unpredicted science is even better, when you see something happen, go "Hold on a sec..." and try and work out why. If you can't work that out using the very best science of the time, then you could be onto something.

Chances are, you're not. You've missed experimental error, an aspect of existing theory, even a straightforward misinterpretation of results. To catch this, you put out a paper saying: "I've found this, and I think it's important". Others — not as attached to your discovery as yourself — then check what you've done. They repeat the experiment, but not to reproduce the results: instead, the idea is to pick holes in your logic, find problems, show why it's not important after all. Get past that stage and then and only then is it deemed good enough to build further theories.

McCarthy says Steorn won't do that bit, and won't really explain why. Or rather, he says it will — but in private with hand-picked scientists, because it wants to have a really good explanation of how it works before it's prepared to demonstrate that it does. Despite returning to this point repeatedly with him, I could never quite fathom that. Put the plans up on the site, I said. What would it hurt? Multiple independent demonstrations are difficult to refute.

The conversation ended up with him saying in effect: "This is how we've chosen to do it". There was talk of intellectual property and patents, yet if you want to patent something you keep quiet about it, not take out full-page ads in the Economist. And basic physics has no IP anyway — although I'm sure somebody in America is currently trying to patent the photon.

And thus, despite their claims to the contrary on their website, it's pseudoscience. They don't have to have a theory for it to be science — in fact, it's clear that they don't — but that doesn't matter. Build a box. Show it working. That's enough. Hans Christian Ørsted showed electromagnetism in 1820 and it wasn't fully explained until James Clerk Maxwell's masterwork nearly 50 years later — but it was all science.

A working journalist gets a nose for this sort of thing. I've had a similar experience with a company called SilkRoad, which had an amazing change-the-laws-of-physics optical data transmission method. I've had one with a British data compression outfit set up by a university professor. I've been assured of unbelievable wireless transmission methods that will change the world. Grand claims with no evidence sink. By comparison, look at Intel, HP, IBM and Hitachi: amazing results through the scientific method that flow through to real products.

Whatever Steorn is doing — and in the utter absence of any testable data, the chances of it being a significant scientific achievement are closer to absolute zero than the contents of Lord Kelvin's freezer compartment — it's an expensive experiment. For the price of that Economist advert and whatever they're paying their PR company, they could have built 10 apparatuses that actually demonstrated their effect and Fedex'd them to the major centres of scientific excellence on the planet.

It wouldn't even cost them that much. If they'll send me the plans, I'll build one. Having built it, I'll convince myself that it does produce more energy than it takes in — which will take a glass of water, a resistor, a thermometer, a couple of test meters and some basic mathematics, all of which I already have. I shall then get on the train to Cambridge and refuse to leave until the nice people at the Cavendish take a look at it.

I shall do all this at no charge to Steorn, because it will make me very famous if it turns out to be true and I'll get a great article out of it if it isn't. Furthermore, I don't think it will happen.

Neither will Steorn's amazing machine. Whether it's being driven by madness, genuine misapprehension or some ulterior motive yet to be revealed, it's not being driven by science. Producing rotational energy out of nothing is a great trick and one that its PR company is clearly very good at, but once the silly season's over the spin will die down.

 

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  1. No, no, no ralphclark
  2. And by the way... ralphclark
  3. free energy, "free" as in beer ralphclark
  4. Gravitational interaction unlikely on this si... ralphclark
  5. The evidence is against you ralphclark
  6. Education = limitation?? Are you sure? John Sawyer
  7. superluminal joke ralphclark
  8. No overunity here ralphclark
  9. Leprechauns John Sawyer
  10. You're probably right, it's just a publicity stunt... Anonymous
  11. Can energy be destroyed? No. What does it al... Anonymous
  12. Arthur C. Clarke agrees; He said that a... Anonymous
  13. There was earlier a report of a "Perpetual Mo... Venugopal
  14. Hi Folks. I just thougt i would throw th... Matt Conl.
  15. The Second Law of Themodynamics dies in this... Tom Fenton
  16. Pseudojournalism. There are very good reasons for... testytyke
  17. Nonsense KA9Q
  18. The claim by the Irish company Steorn of the over... Jerome E. Goodwin Sr.
  19. Conventional Physics has complicated things t... KKSEAL
  20. The first law of Thermodynamics may not be broken... Malcolm Ripley
  21. Dark Matter, zero point energy etc, etc. asid... Rich Weber
  22. I agree with Rich Weber. We must at lea... Anonymous
  23. In answer to the question about how... Rupert Goodwins
  24. Rupert... "Also, that if they... Kint Verbal
  25. Exactly Rupert your just a jou... John Case
  26. Read their patent application... it's plugged into... TL
  27. Carlos Luna has been a leading researcher at... Anonymous
  28. Alexander Kushelev: Steorn's free energy - real. B... Alexander Kushelev
  29. I knew Einstein, Maxwell, and all those other... Anonymous
  30. "I knew Einstein, Maxwell, and all those... Rich Weber
  31. There are some aspects of physics that are never t... Cyril Smith
  32. I would like to know how much Goodwins is getting... Anonymous
  33. Wow! This article sure brings out the weirdo... Mary Yugo
  34. A glass of water and a resistor? The extra energy... Anonymous
  35. Dear unemployed anonymous aristocrat... what... Rupert Goodwins
  36. It will sure be fun to parade around you and your... Anonymous
  37. The only people keeping the 'secret of free e... Rupert Goodwins
  38. Law's can be broken... or bent! Magnets... justaNobody
  39. Magnets have no inherent energy den... rebo
  40. You are probably right but you are pushing a few p... Jason Shuler
  41. The people who are involved in the development and... Anonymous
  42. The announcement that Steorn had discovered free e... Robin Spark
  43. What about tom beardan who has created the motiole... Amarach2010
  44. Excellent article! I have been reading quite a lot... peter slevin
  45. If you look into Steorn's patent applications (not... Anonymous
  46. 1st of April was the date chosen by the company to... Anonymous
  47. What a cynical world? If any lone inventor propose... venkatram
  48. "Still few people calling him fool and fraud,... Observer
  49. Buzz marketing, as effective as it can be, is a da... Richard Becker
  50. You make a very valid point regarding Steorn’s pos... David
  51. Note that the "laws" of thermodynamics have n... Anonymous
  52. Hi rupert -- you are very good at speaking thru yo... greg loosli
  53. Thanks for this, I was caught up by the ad in the... Bill Heitzeg
  54. If McCarthy and Steorn are proven right, the benef... Andy Macken
  55. Great hoax, invest in the memorabilia Jonathan Arthur
  56. Steorn now has, according to its website, a very l... flowerydwarf
  57. An excellent article. Rupert. You do know what you... Stewart Trickett
  58. Of course, I am very sceptic about Steorn's claims... Alex
  59. Proof of Fraud: 1) On their website they give an a... Matthew Martin
  60. to Matthew Martin regarding your so called pr... John Smith
  61. I for one welcome our new Steorn Overlords. Anon
  62. They have in fact, maybe. After my theory is very... Jiří Vrbka
  63. enjoyed the article, wqell written, and nice opini... Paul
  64. This article is a disservice to its readers. What'... Anonymous
  65. To John Smith: Good point. It seems that at the ve... Matthew Martin
  66. To Matthew Martin; > In any case I personally... Anonymous
  67. To anonymous: Obviously I have too much... Matthew Martin
  68. Why don't we just wait for the verdict by the jury... Anonymous
  69. HP, IBM, INTEL and HITACHI are huge conglomerate... william harrison
  70. Could this divice be tapping into the rotational e... Anonymous
  71. Goodwins is clearly not for "good wins". He is no... Someone
  72. But if it works it will be a scientific developmen... Michael Nash
  73. "As for whether it's possible that Steorn's magic... N. Horner
  74. Yes, you are absolutely right, the probability tha... John Arul
  75. It's good to be a sceptic and constantly try to di... Mikael Franzen
  76. Wrong Definition of Sceptic rinpoche
  77. UK and US government espionage to killing and murd... Forum1
  78. Not sure about earth overheating John Sawyer
  79. You raise a good point rinpoche
  80. Human species has its pluses John Sawyer
  81. I know exactly how it works rinpoche
  82. missed the boat Drackon
  83. I found this blog useful... steornfan
  84. Superconductor overunity device michael chin
  85. Another useful blog michael chin
  86. Another useful blog 2 michael chin
  87. What are you on about? ralphclark
  88. Why didn't the Big Bang produce iron? KA9Q
  89. I let the URL speak for itself michael chin
  90. Science is not complete. michael chin
  91. ...and cook for ten thousand years... ralphclark
  92. Not disputing ZPE as such ralphclark
  93. read the joke because it isnt reall... ralphclark
  94. I give up, you are brain dead michael chin
  95. What part don't you understand... ralphclark
  96. Michael, you've gotta do the a... John Sawyer
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