Steorn's free energy seems curiously expensive
Published: 22 Aug 2006 10:35 BST
...you go and look and, if you find what you're looking for, your theory is all the stronger. Unpredicted science is even better, when you see something happen, go "Hold on a sec..." and try and work out why. If you can't work that out using the very best science of the time, then you could be onto something.
Chances are, you're not. You've missed experimental error, an aspect of existing theory, even a straightforward misinterpretation of results. To catch this, you put out a paper saying: "I've found this, and I think it's important". Others — not as attached to your discovery as yourself — then check what you've done. They repeat the experiment, but not to reproduce the results: instead, the idea is to pick holes in your logic, find problems, show why it's not important after all. Get past that stage and then and only then is it deemed good enough to build further theories.
McCarthy says Steorn won't do that bit, and won't really explain why. Or rather, he says it will — but in private with hand-picked scientists, because it wants to have a really good explanation of how it works before it's prepared to demonstrate that it does. Despite returning to this point repeatedly with him, I could never quite fathom that. Put the plans up on the site, I said. What would it hurt? Multiple independent demonstrations are difficult to refute.
The conversation ended up with him saying in effect: "This is how we've chosen to do it". There was talk of intellectual property and patents, yet if you want to patent something you keep quiet about it, not take out full-page ads in the Economist. And basic physics has no IP anyway — although I'm sure somebody in America is currently trying to patent the photon.
And thus, despite their claims to the contrary on their website, it's pseudoscience. They don't have to have a theory for it to be science — in fact, it's clear that they don't — but that doesn't matter. Build a box. Show it working. That's enough. Hans Christian Ørsted showed electromagnetism in 1820 and it wasn't fully explained until James Clerk Maxwell's masterwork nearly 50 years later — but it was all science.
A working journalist gets a nose for this sort of thing. I've had a similar experience with a company called SilkRoad, which had an amazing change-the-laws-of-physics optical data transmission method. I've had one with a British data compression outfit set up by a university professor. I've been assured of unbelievable wireless transmission methods that will change the world. Grand claims with no evidence sink. By comparison, look at Intel, HP, IBM and Hitachi: amazing results through the scientific method that flow through to real products.
Whatever Steorn is doing — and in the utter absence of any testable data, the chances of it being a significant scientific achievement are closer to absolute zero than the contents of Lord Kelvin's freezer compartment — it's an expensive experiment. For the price of that Economist advert and whatever they're paying their PR company, they could have built 10 apparatuses that actually demonstrated their effect and Fedex'd them to the major centres of scientific excellence on the planet.
It wouldn't even cost them that much. If they'll send me the plans, I'll build one. Having built it, I'll convince myself that it does produce more energy than it takes in — which will take a glass of water, a resistor, a thermometer, a couple of test meters and some basic mathematics, all of which I already have. I shall then get on the train to Cambridge and refuse to leave until the nice people at the Cavendish take a look at it.
I shall do all this at no charge to Steorn, because it will make me very famous if it turns out to be true and I'll get a great article out of it if it isn't. Furthermore, I don't think it will happen.
Neither will Steorn's amazing machine. Whether it's being driven by madness, genuine misapprehension or some ulterior motive yet to be revealed, it's not being driven by science. Producing rotational energy out of nothing is a great trick and one that its PR company is clearly very good at, but once the silly season's over the spin will die down.
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No, no, no ralphclark -
And by the way... ralphclark -
free energy, "free" as in beer ralphclark -
Gravitational interaction unlikely on this si... ralphclark -
The evidence is against you ralphclark -
Education = limitation?? Are you sure? John Sawyer -
superluminal joke ralphclark -
No overunity here ralphclark -
Leprechauns John Sawyer -
You're probably right, it's just a publicity stunt... Anonymous -
Can energy be destroyed? No. What does it al... Anonymous -
Arthur C. Clarke agrees; He said that a... Anonymous -
There was earlier a report of a "Perpetual Mo... Venugopal -
Hi Folks. I just thougt i would throw th... Matt Conl. -
The Second Law of Themodynamics dies in this... Tom Fenton -
Pseudojournalism. There are very good reasons for... testytyke -
Nonsense KA9Q -
The claim by the Irish company Steorn of the over... Jerome E. Goodwin Sr. -
Conventional Physics has complicated things t... KKSEAL -
The first law of Thermodynamics may not be broken... Malcolm Ripley -
Dark Matter, zero point energy etc, etc. asid... Rich Weber -
I agree with Rich Weber. We must at lea... Anonymous -
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Rupert...
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Exactly Rupert your just a jou... John Case -
Read their patent application... it's plugged into... TL -
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Alexander Kushelev: Steorn's free energy - real.
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I knew Einstein, Maxwell, and all those other... Anonymous -
"I knew Einstein, Maxwell, and all those... Rich Weber -
There are some aspects of physics that are never t... Cyril Smith -
I would like to know how much Goodwins is getting... Anonymous -
Wow! This article sure brings out the weirdo... Mary Yugo -
A glass of water and a resistor?
The extra energy... Anonymous -
Dear unemployed anonymous aristocrat... what... Rupert Goodwins -
It will sure be fun to parade around you and your... Anonymous -
The only people keeping the 'secret of free e... Rupert Goodwins -
Law's can be broken... or bent!
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Magnets have no inherent energy den... rebo -
You are probably right but you are pushing a few p... Jason Shuler -
The people who are involved in the development and... Anonymous -
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What about tom beardan who has created the motiole... Amarach2010 -
Excellent article! I have been reading quite a lot... peter slevin -
If you look into Steorn's patent applications (not... Anonymous -
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Buzz marketing, as effective as it can be, is a da... Richard Becker -
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Thanks for this, I was caught up by the ad in the... Bill Heitzeg -
If McCarthy and Steorn are proven right, the benef... Andy Macken -
Great hoax, invest in the memorabilia Jonathan Arthur -
Steorn now has, according to its website, a very l... flowerydwarf -
An excellent article. Rupert. You do know what you... Stewart Trickett -
Of course, I am very sceptic about Steorn's claims... Alex -
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to Matthew Martin regarding your so called pr... John Smith -
I for one welcome our new Steorn Overlords. Anon -
They have in fact, maybe. After my theory is very... Jiří Vrbka -
enjoyed the article, wqell written, and nice opini... Paul -
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To John Smith:
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Obviously I have too much... Matthew Martin -
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HP, IBM, INTEL and HITACHI are huge conglomerate... william harrison -
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Goodwins is clearly not for "good wins". He is no... Someone -
But if it works it will be a scientific developmen... Michael Nash -
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It's good to be a sceptic and constantly try to di... Mikael Franzen -
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I let the URL speak for itself michael chin -
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